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  • The case for an omniscient god

    Posted: September 30, 2010, 6:39 pm by admin

    Omniscient Not

    Mathew 6:8 NIV “Do not be like them, for your father knows what you need even before you ask.” The bible has many verses that portray an omniscient god. It is commonplace for members of a certain religion to believe their god is the most powerful being in the universe…and beyond(whatever that means). The science of the gods is usually questionable to say the least. But lets give it a break here. Lets use rationality and try to argue out the case of an omniscient god, even though rationality is illegal in the church.

    Omniscience (or omniscient point-of-view in writing) is the capacity to know everything infinitely, or at least everything that can be known about a character including thoughts, feelings, life and the universe, etc. In monotheism, this ability is typically attributed to God. … - wikipedia.

    An omniscient god would know the past, the present and the future. A being with omniscience wouldn’t be capable of making mistakes. Because he can see the future, and any “mistakes” made would thus be intentional.  They would be part of a grand plan to achieve something. They would no longer be called mistakes and the being wouldn’t be surprised at the way things turn out. Actually he would be glad things turned out the way they did.

    Now lets examine the story of the original sin. Adam and Eve are supposedly created by an omniscience being. Then Eve is tempted by the snake to eat of the forbidden fruit – god! I can’t believe am using this example its retarded, anyhow… – Eve falls for the trick and accepts.  Now god is furious and decides to punish them. He even sends them out of the garden of Eden which he specifically made for them. If god was omniscient wouldn’t he know what was going to happen. Why would he make the garden of Eden in the first place if he was going to send them out of it. Why would he create man with free will if he knew what was going to happen? Or maybe he wasn’t sure what would actually happen. Maybe the oracle from the matrix was right “you can’t see beyond a choice that you haven’t made”:) But that wouldn’t be the case if he was omniscient, would it?

    An omniscient god would not need any of the five senses or say most of the nervous system. The five senses are used to see, taste, touch, smell and hear. If we were omniscient we wouldn’t need any of these because we would already know those things before we cared to find out. But then again the infamous book says god created man in his own image. For the sake of it, we will assume he did create man in his own image, then added the eyes, ears, nose, tongue and skin later.

    If god was all knowing there wouldn’t be the original sin. And that means humans  - who obviously didn’t evolve from crude forms because the bible is true – would still be living in the garden of Eden. There wouldn’t be people suffering in the world, killing each other, starving to death, raping little kids. Unless the said god takes pleasure in watching that. And if he know that would have happened, then he must have by action or inaction designed the universe to be like that. He is the one responsible for all the bad stuff. And he is satisfied by his work.

    The writers of the bible should have been more careful with their choice of abilities for the obviously fabricated god. Throwing in things like all-knowing was too risky. It changes a lot of things. Such tricks they should have left for movie directors to play around with.

    Religion especially Christianity is very creative. But reason has killed it. Its about time we left “the dead bury themselves”, as Jesus would say.

  • I am God;I will smite thee

    Posted: September 2, 2010, 11:47 am by admin

    How many people did God kill in the Bible?

    It’s impossible to say for sure, but plenty. How many did God drown in the flood or burn to death in Sodom and Gomorrah? How many first-born Egyptians did he kill? There’s just no way to count them all. This list doesn’t include those figures.

    SAB, Brick Testament Number Killed Cumulative Total
    Lot’s wife for looking back Gen.19:26, BT 1 1
    Er who was “wicked in the sight of the Lord” Gen.38:7, BT 1 2
    Onan for spilling his seed Gen.38:10,
    BT
    1 3
    For dancing naked around Aaron’s golden calf Ex.32:27-28, 35, BT 3000 3003
    Aaron’s sons for offering strange fire before the Lord Lev.10:1-3,
    Num.3:4, 26:61, BT
    2 3005
    A blasphemer Lev.24:10-23, BT 1 3006
    A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath Num.15:32-36, BT 1 3007
    Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families) Num.16:27, BT 12+ 3019+
    Burned to death for offering incense Num.16:35,
    26:10, BT
    250 3269+
    For complaining Num.16:49, BT 14,700 17,969+
    For “committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab” Num.25:9, BT 24,000 41,969+
    Midianite massacre (32,000 virgins were kept alive) Num.31:1-35, BT 90,000+ 131,969+
    God tells Joshua to stoned to death Achan (and his family) for taking the accursed thing. Joshua 7:10-12, 24-26, BT 5+ 131,974+
    God tells Joshua to attack Ai and do what he did to Jericho (kill everyone). Joshua 8:1-25, BT 12,000 143,974+
    God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites Judges 1:4, BT 10,000 153,974+
    Ehud delivers a message from God: a knife into the king’s belly Jg.3:15-22, BT 1 153,975+
    God delivered Moabites Jg.3:28-29, BT 10,000 163,975+
    God forces Midianite soldiers to kill each other. Jg.7:2-22, 8:10, BT 120,000 283,975+
    The Spirit of the Lord comes on Samson Jg.14:19, BT 30 284,005+
    The Spirit of the Lord comes mightily on Samson Jg.15:14-15, BT 1000 285,005+
    Samson’s God-assisted act of terrorism Jg.16:27-30, BT 3000 288,005+
    “The Lord smote Benjamin” Jg.20:35-37, BT 25,100 313,105+
    More Benjamites Jg.20:44-46 25,000 338,105+
    For looking into the ark of the Lord 1 Sam.6:19 50,070 388,175+
    God delivered Philistines 1 Sam.14:12 20 388,195+
    Samuel (at God’s command) hacks Agag to death 1 Sam.15:32-33 1 388,196+
    “The Lord smote Nabal.” 1 Sam.25:38 1 388,197+
    Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling 2 Sam.6:6-7, 1 Chr.13:9-10 1 388,198+
    David and Bathsheba’s baby boy 2 Sam.12:14-18 1 388,199+
    Seven sons of Saul hung up before the Lord 2 Sam.21:6-9 7 388,206+
    From plague as punishment for David’s census (men only; probably 200,000 if including women and children) 2 Sam.24:13, 1 Chr.21:7 70,000+ 458,206+
    A prophet for believing another prophet’s lie 1 Kg.13:1-24 1 458,207+
    God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites’ hands 1 Kg.20:28-29 100,000 558,207+
    God makes a wall fall on Syrian soldiers 1 Kg.20:30 27,000 585,207+
    God sent a lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet 1 Kg.20:35-36 1 585,208+
    Ahaziah is killed for talking to the wrong god. 2 Kg.1:2-4, 17, 2 Chr.22:7-9 1 585,209+
    Burned to death by God 2 Kg.1:9-12 102 585,311+
    God sends two bears to kill children for making fun of Elisha’s bald head 2 Kg.2:23-24 42 585,343+
    Trampled to death for disbelieving Elijah 2 Kg.7:17-20 1 585,344+
    Jezebel 2 Kg.9:33-37 1 585,355+
    God sent lions to kill “some” foreigners 2 Kg.17:25-26 3+ 585,358+
    Sleeping Assyrian soldiers 2 Kg.19:35, 2 Chr.32:21, Is.37:36 185,000 770,358+
    Saul 1 Chr.10:14 1 770,359+
    God delivers Israel into the hands of Judah 2 Chr.13:15-17 500,000 1,270,359+
    Jeroboam 2 Chr.13:20 1 1,270,360+
    “The Lord smote the Ethiopians.” 2 Chr.14:9-14 1,000,000 2,270,360+
    God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out 2 Chr.21:14-19 1 2,270,361+
    Ezekiel’s wife Ezek.24:15-18 1 2,270,362+
    Ananias and Sapphira Acts 5:1-10 2 2,270,364+
    Herod Acts 12:23, BT 1 2,270,365+

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